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First, I want to thank you for your interesting comment and the link to Anne Milley's comment on the NY Times article. I also apologize for taking so long to reply to you. I only recently noticed your comment here on the site. Indeed, her blog post sounds much more reasonable than the quote in the New York Times but that is always the risk when talking to a reporter.

I also agree with you that both communities have something to offer. I sat down and thought about this quote (and the content you linked to, here) and my concern is a very simple one. SAS competes with several products, including R. I am sure you can provide me with good arguments as to why your product is better than SPSS, Stata, or some other statistical package. Having never used SAS, I am in no place to judge the merits of your claims, but I would be shocked if any SAS representative made a joke about being glad they weren't on a plane built (in-part) with SPSS or Stata. (BTW, I'm not an engineer, what do they use SAS for when building a plane? I'm just curious.) R is a very good product, and in spite of the fact it is completely free, it manages to provide a comprehensive suite of tools that many statisticians find compelling. Some even contribute their time to making R better. The community gets a little irked when comments like this are made. I don't want to speak for the R community (I am not a developer in the project) but I do think the community would be open to a real competitive analysis between the two products. I am sure the SAS is better at some things. I am equally sure that R is better at some things. I would be interested in learning more about the relative strengths and weaknesses, but as a consumer of open-source tools, I am immediately turned off when I hear cheap shots about freeware that no decent rep would have made (publicly) about a competing proprietary product. I know I would have responded differently if the SAS rep had claimed that SAS was a superior product because it could do:

1. __________________(insert your favorite feature(s) here)                                    
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The additional modules/packages (!install.views) for R are worth discussing. You are right,  these are not of uniform quality. Some are clearly better than others. But, this is similar to the situation found with other products, it's just a little harder to find the material. As a SPSS user, I can assure you that there are many freely downloadable programs for SPSS and these are not of uniform quality either. But, they are a quick Google Search away. I am sure the same is true for the SAS community. Anytime a user decides to use an add-on to a program like R, SAS or SPSS; they should first review the package themselves (including test data-sets) to make sure that the results are appropriate and accurate. As an open project, R is able to make it easier for users to find and use these resources. But yes, users do need to be aware of what they are doing when they use these resources.

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